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Michael Gove has suggested Liz Truss and the Government are "betting too much on tax cuts" funded through borrowing as he called for the decision to scrap the 45p top rate of income tax to be reversed.
The former Cabinet minister said that "my concern is the scale of that borrowing" which is being used to pay for the tax cuts.
Speaking at a Chopper's Politics podcast event hosted by The Telegraph at Conservative Party conference in Birmingham, Mr Gove said that he was worried the Government was "betting too much on tax cuts when we are borrowing to pay for them" and "that is not Conservative in my view".
Mr Gove said abolishing the 45p additional rate was "wrong". When asked if the decision should be reversed, Mr Gove said: "Yes."
However, Jake Berry, the chairman of the Conservative Party, argued that scrapping the top rate of income tax is the "right thing to do" and Tories should now be "going out there making the argument for a low tax, high growth economy".
That's all for today
The first day of Liz Truss's first Conservative Party conference as Prime Minister was never going to run smoothly after the events of the past week.
But Michael Gove's kamikaze interview with Laura Kuenssberg was more brutal than many feared, as he refused to commit to voting for her mini-Budget and accused her policies of displaying the "wrong values".
Ms Truss nevertheless had reason to be cheerful, as she received multiple standing ovations during her opening address to grassroots activists.
It is clear, however, she faces an uphill battle to convince a sizeable minority within her party, as the number of Tory MPs to speak out against the abolition of the 45p income tax rate passed a dozen.
There is now a lot riding on Kwasi Kwarteng, the Chancellor, who is set to deliver Monday's keynote speech - with the eyes of the markets, his party and the country firmly on the main hall of the ICC in Birmingham.
Join us again tomorrow for all the latest from day two of Tory conference.
IDS: 'Social carnage' of lockdowns must never be repeated
Former Conservative Party leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith has said that the Covid lockdowns caused so much "social carnage" they must never be repeated, writes Camilla Tominey.
Speaking at an event for the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ) think tank, the MP for Chingford and Woodford Green said the collateral damage caused by shutting Britain down during coronavirus had been "staggering", adding: "It’s questionable how many lives actually that lockdown saved in the scale and the nature of it.
"We must never go down this road again."
Citing figures which show the gap in attainment between rich and poor pupils was at a 10-year high, he said children from less wealthy backgrounds were now 18 months behind their better off classmates thanks to schools being closed in 2020.
Sir Iain, who co-founded the CSJ in 2004, was speaking at a fringe event entitled The Children of Lockdown: Where are they now?
Ben Wallace's closing remarks
Ben Wallace rejects the idea of turning to Labour, comparing Sir Keir Starmer to "Captain Mainwaring and his platoon".
"As the threat changes, so must the investment. Mr Starmer, will you match the Prime Minister's pledge of three per cent by 2030?"
Mr Wallace said he was "sorry to see Johnny Mercer leave the Government". The former veterans' minister departed when Liz Truss took office.
"Whatever the world may throw at us in the next few years, no one says it's going to be easy. You can make sure this team, along with the UK's Armed Forces, will be working day and night to defend us and keep us and our allies safe."
Truss defence pledge is 'what we needed'
Ben Wallace says Liz Truss's pledge to increase defence spending to three per cent of GDP by 2030 was "what we needed" and the current global instability "will not go away by itself".
"What [Putin] didn't say was just as interesting... he never addressed the tens of thousands of Russian widows and mothers whose young men were sent to their deaths.
"Seeing Russia's behaviour changed the longstanding positions of two countries who were wedded to neutrality [Sweden and Norway]. I'm delighted they're now joining Nato, but how unnecessary this invasion has been and at a cost of huge suffering to all in Ukraine and wider.
"The Prime Minister is determined to invest in defence, stand up to Russia, stand by Ukraine and prepare us to face the threat of tomorrow. The reality is we can't afford not to invest three per cent of GDP in defence and our Prime Minister understands that.
"To do so would imperil our security and risk having our Armed Forces out of step with our peers and more worryingly out of steps with our enemies."
Ben Wallace: My mission is ending hollowing-out of forces
Ben Wallace jokes about the "musical accompaniment" from protesters who have been playing loud music outside of the ICC in Birmingham.
He says Liz Truss is "equally dedicated" to continuing Boris Johnson's levelling up mission, before praising the twin "constants" of the late Elizabeth II and the Armed Forces.
"They always display the finest qualities and dedication to duty," Mr Wallace says of British troops. "When I took the reins at the Ministry of Defence in 2019, I undertook to reform defence to ensure our forces had what they needed to do the task given to them by Government.
"But I also drew on my own experience to once and for all put a stop to the hollowing out of our forces. For decades, prime ministers had wanted more but chancellors had wanted less. In short, I was determined that whatever funding we got, it was spent to deliver a ready and deployable force, well-armed and well-trained."
He insists the priority must not be "shiny new toys" but "fixing what we have first".
Johnson's first new role since leaving No 10
Boris Johnson will be the new president of the Conservative Friends of Ukraine, it has been announced, writes Maighna Nanu.
The news of the former Prime Minister's new role was revealed at a Friends of Ukraine reception at the Conservative Party conference.
John Whittingdale, the current president, and a Tory MP, told the fringe event: "I am very happy that I will stand aside for a new president of CFU - somebody who in many ways is the obvious and most deserving person to lead this organisation.
"Because he was the first person not just in this country, but across the western world to so strongly come out and support [the Ukrainian] people. So I'm delighted that the next President will be Boris Johnson."
There has been lots of speculation about what Mr Johnson might do after leaving office.
Welsh Secretary: Conservative values are what Wales wants
Conservative values are what Wales wants, Sir Robert Buckland has said in his speech to his party conference this afternoon.
"Mr Drakeford loves to proclaim that Labour values - an overreaching state and a managed economy - are Welsh values," Sir Robert told delegates. "[Adam] Price thinks that the people of Wales value independence above all else.
"I think we all know that they’re both wrong. We know that Conservative values resonate with people across Wales and across our entire United Kingdom. Let me tell you about what sets us apart."
Sir Robert rejected the idea of "more politicians" amid the creeping expansion of the Senedd, and said Welsh Conservatives "don't believe in the politics of place... we believe in the politics of people".
'I'm really sorry'
Steve Baker has said he is "really sorry" to Ireland and the EU for "not always behaving" in a way that meant they would "trust us" during Brexit negotiations.
The new Northern Ireland minister - and former head of the European Research Group - appeared to change his tune from his previous backbench agitations as he said relations with Ireland "are not where they should be".
Prince William to stay away from Cop27 along with his father, King Charles
No senior members of the Royal family will attend Cop27 after it was confirmed the King and Prince of Wales will not travel to Egypt - despite their long-term campaigning on the environment.
The King, who was widely expected to go in person before the death of his mother, will not attend on the advice of the Government.
The Prince will also not attend the Egypt summit or send a message, concentrating instead on his Earthshot Prize.
'Time is running out' on levelling up
Ben Houchen, described by Jake Berry as the "embodiment" of Conservative leaders delivering for Britain, accepts there was a "significant decline" in the north of England.
He puts the 2019 general election victory down to "Boris, Brexit and levelling up", and says Teesside, Darlington and Hartlepool have set out the "blueprint for what levelling up can be".
"We need to make sure that if we want to form that majority that we all want to see at the next election, we must deliver on levelling up and time is running out.
"They want to be proven right, and they want to vote for us again, but we've got to give them that excuse. So for everybody in this hall, to the Cabinet, to ministers, to MPs, the next two years are going to be one hell of a fight. Because whatever we do, we must start to deliver for the people of this country, we must start to level up, and I hope we can take this message from the conference today... and deliver that Conservative majority at the next election."
Party chairman: Local leaders will deliver levelling up
Jake Berry says Tory voters "want us to prove them right - they want to stand in their pub and say I voted Conservative in 2019, and my town is getting better".
"Conservatives also know you can only deliver levelling up by going for growth. That's why we're going to drive down tax to level up our country."
If the party will win a historic fifth term in Government, he warns, "it's going to take a lot of historic hard graft... So conference, levelling up, it's a team game. Government can't do it on its own. It's a partnership between civic leaders and businesses.
"We are going to work with you all, those strong local leaders, because you are the ones who will deliver levelling up."
Jake Berry likens Truss to Thatcher
Mr Berry quips that even though he may look a bit like Mick Lynch, "despite his best efforts we are going to have a great conference here in Birmingham".
"It would be a mistake for us to believe that 2019 general election vote was an unconditional vote for our party, the Conservative Party. And if we're going to hold those gains, in fact if we're going to build on those gains and win the next election, we know it's time to deliver, deliver, deliver.
"And let me tell you, our new Prime Minister knows how to deliver. Liz Truss is a woman of action, conference, as Margaret Thatcher told us, in politics, if you want something said you ask a man, if you want something done, who do you ask? You ask a woman. And of course we know that you can only level up by getting things done."
Andy Street: Birmingham is bouncing back
Andy Street, the Tory West Midlands Mayor, says a "lot has happened" in the past four years and it has been a "difficult time" for Birmingham as Britain's conferencing capital.
"But the good news is with incredible resilience, teamwork and that Brummie ingenuity we are bouncing back, and the best evidence of that bouncing back is of course the wonderful Commonwealth Games this summer."
Mr Street says the West Midlands is so attractive because of the talent that is on offer and the best-qualified workforce the region has ever had.
He contrasts it with his old assumption growing up "we'd have to leave to get on in life... that's no longer true... that is levelling up in action."
'She should be recorded as Elizabeth the Great'
Sir John Major: "I found it both very cathartic, very interesting and something frankly that one looked forward to each week."
David Cameron: "It was an extraordinary treat to be able to go to Balmoral every year for six years, and one of the best parts was when in the evening you'd get into Her Majesty's car, a Range Rover, and she would drive at breakneck speed up the hill and onto the moor, and there at a converted old cottage on the hill would be the Duke of Edinburgh, with a barbecue he'd built himself, barbecuing grouse for your dinner. And I'm not making this up, you sat down and Prince Philip and Her Majesty the Queen served your dinner and cleared it away and washed it up while you sat talking to the other guests."
Mr Cameron said when he went to wash up himself, the Queen replied: "What on earth is the Prime Minister doing?"
Theresa May: "She was very humble, and I hope that there will be a legacy for the country of more of a sense of the importance of service and duty."
Boris Johnson: "I think there has been no other monarch in our history who has seen such a phenomenal increase in the prosperity, the opportunity and the longevity of the British people as she has in her reign. And for that reason alone, I think that she should be recorded as Elizabeth the Great."
Former prime ministers' tributes to Queen
In video messages currently playing out, Boris Johnson described audiences with the Queen as an "incredibly nerve-racking experience... you're kind of worried that you're going to stuff it up".
"But after a few moments it becomes incredibly informal, and she's brilliant at asking questions that elicit a great torrent of stuff. And there's a lot of laughter, well there's certainly a lot with the audience I had."
Theresa May recalls her first audience being her invite to form a Government. "That moment when you have that first audience... it becomes real that you are prime minister. Her Majesty was so good at putting everybody at their ease.
"And both that audience and the audiences I then went on to have with her subsequently, they were conversations. She was incredibly well-informed. She had incredible knowledge, wisdom and understanding."
Cabinet minister gives the BBC a pounding
A Cabinet minister attacked the BBC for failing to report the market's recovery following the fall in the value of the pound triggered by the mini-Budget, reports Tony Diver.
Chris Philp, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, said the broadcaster had made more out of the pound's fall to a 35-year low than they did from its recovery.
"In terms of market turmoil, I think obviously the markets have settled down," he told a Conservative Party Conference fringe event run by the Institute for Economic Affairs.
"I noticed that when the currency went down, the BBC reported it on their front page and it was a big splash," he said.
"When it went back up again to the level it was at previously before the statement, the BBC and other outlets were remarkably silent on the topic.
"But I’m confident that when the full plans are set out in a few weeks’ time, any market questions will be categorically answered."
Mordaunt in tribute to Elizabeth II's 'shining gift to the world'
Penny Mordaunt, leader of the Commons, says it has been just three weeks since the death of Elizabeth II.
"As we face new challenges without her, we would do well to keep her in our thoughts. History, after all, is experience. Remember, she became our Queen just seven years after the bloodiest conflict humanity has ever seen. We were a nation facing debt, hardship, rationing and the daunting task of modernising in the Empire.
"It was said on the King's death Britain had lost part of its balance wheel - that's part of a watch that keeps the beat, that keeps things steady. The world witnessed a young woman, pale with grief, pledge her whole life to our nation's service.
"Doubt and despair gave way to hope. Her pledge turned out to be a shining gift to the world. Every time we battled, we had Her Majesty alongside us, advising us, guiding us, unifying us all, and reminding us of the challenges we'd faced together in her long life - many much greater than we face now."
Claps for Cleverly at Ukraine reception
James Cleverly receives a huge round of applause as he speaks at the Conservative Friends of Ukraine event, reports Maighna Nanu.
He tells the packed room: "We recognise that our support to Ukraine is not just about Ukraine. It is about a belief in freedom.
"Ultimately it is about the respect for the dignity of humanity. That's what our support to Ukraine is all about... This war must be won."
Good afternoon
Dominic Penna, the Telegraph's Political Reporter taking you through the rest of the day at the Conservative Party conference here in Birmingham.
Soon we will hear from Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary, and Penny Mordaunt, the leader of the Commons, in the first round of speeches in the main event hall.
'Pitch rolling' for mini-Budget could have been better
Another dispatch from Tony Diver, The Telegraph's Whitehall correspondent, who is at a Conservative Party fringe event hosted by the centre-right think tanks the IEA and Taxpayers' Alliance.
Chris Philp, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, has given Liz Truss's mini-Budget a score of 9.5 out of 10.
He said "pitch rolling" for the Government's tax cuts could have been improved but that the mini-Budget's substance would create economic growth.
Truss mini-Budget an 'eight out of 10'
Gerard Lyons, one of Liz Truss's closest economic advisers, said he would give the Prime Minister's mini-Budget a score of eight out of 10.
But he said: "I was critical of the decision to cut the rate of [income] tax at that time... it should be implemented alongside other tax simplification measures."
He added that Ms Truss should have "stuck to what was said on the tin" during the leadership campaign. "The markets were fully on board with that," he said
Truss risks undermining 'social contract' with tax cuts
One of Liz Truss's closest economic advisers has warned she risks undermining the "social contract" in Britain by cutting the top rate of tax and pursuing austerity at the same time, writes Tony Diver.
Gerard Lyons, who advised Ms Truss's campaign on economic matters, acknowledged that the markets had given her mini-Budget a "thumbs down".
"Take your target audience with you. This is not just about communication. Successful economies need to have clarity, predictability and credibility in terms of their strategy and policy," he said at a fringe event at Conservative Party Conference.
"There are probably four target audiences for this Government. The general public, firms, investors and the market.
"In the market, last week has probably been the sign of a thumbs down. Markets need to be convinced that changes in fiscal policy are necessary, not inflationary, and are affordable.
He added: "The social contract is a vital part of our post-war fabric and is seen, in my view, by the general public as critical to building a more enterprise economy. You cannot have a return to austerity and cut the top rate of tax at the same time."
'Highly unlikely' Putin would use nuclear weapons
Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary, said he thought it “highly unlikely” that Vladimir Putin would use nuclear weapons in the Ukraine conflict.
He told a Tory conference fringe event that while the use of tactical nuclear weapons was in the Russian military doctrine “we think it is highly unlikely he will do it”.
Truss receives multiple standing ovations
Liz Truss received multiple standing ovations from Tory members during her speech to the National Convention this afternoon, writes Maighna Nanu.
Dinah Glover, of the Conservative Bethnal Green Association, said the mood in the hall was "really good" and very "pro Liz".
She said: "She [Truss] got several standing ovations. She was cheered, really positive. The questions were really positive."
Ms Glover said the Prime Minister came across as "very genuine" and "relaxed".
The National Convention is like the parliament of the Tory grassroots, comprising of association chairmen and officers from across the country.
'It's a fact of democracy'
Jacob Rees-Mogg has played down the protests taking place outside the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham as a “fact of democracy”.
Speaking to Sky News while being escorted through the crowd by police officers, Mr Rees-Mogg said: “There have been protests at Tory conferences since time immemorial, it’s nothing new. It’s a fact of democracy. They’re shouting but it’s perfectly peaceful.
“And the right to peaceful expression of your view is fundamental to our constitution.”
One other thing from Jake Berry's interview...
... is that he gave a good indication of when the next general election could be.
The chairman of the Conservative Party told Chopper's Politics: “In the normal course of the electoral calendar it’s 18 months or so away.”
That would put polling day in April 2024.
'Do I rule it out? No'
Ben Wallace has not ruled out a potential bid for the Tory leadership in the future, writes Dominic Penna.
Speaking at a fringe event in Birmingham hosted by the Onward think tank, the Defence Secretary said he decided against the "scarcity of life" that would have come with being prime minister. He said he felt "fulfilled" in his current Cabinet job.
"I thought I saw a chance to get out of one of the leadership candidates to get right what I passionately feel and therefore I felt fulfilled and if I’m just left alone and the pledges are kept I can hopefully eventually walk off into the sunset when that eventual bus runs me over, which I’m sure it will, and feel that I’ve contributed," he said.
"At this time of life, the answer was no. Do I rule it out? No. But will I be here in a few years time? I don’t know."
Wallace: Russia's allies 'deeply disagree' with Ukraine war
Ben Wallace has said Russia would be "deeply unhappy" to learn of some of the countries which are secretly helping the West with its military assistance to Ukraine, writes Dominic Penna.
Revealing that the ongoing war is currently taking up just under half of his time as Defence Secretary, Mr Wallace told Iain Dale at a fringe event in Birmingham: "There are a number of countries that do help and want to help, secretly.
"But Russia would be deeply unhappy to learn that some of the people they would try and like, or think they can rely on, deeply disagree with what is going on. And that’s a real credit to many of those countries."
Asked if he was surprised by the scale of European unity in the wake of the invasion, he said: “It hasn’t surprised me as much as it’s clearly surprised President Putin.”
Key takeaways from Chopper's Politics podcast
The Chopper's Politics event has now finished. This is what we learned:
- The "rebel leader" emerges: Michael Gove is emerging as the leading Tory voice opposing Liz Truss's mini-Budget. His statement that he is worried the Government is "betting too much on tax cuts" will have raised eyebrows in Downing Street. One thing is for sure: If Mr Gove is saying that in public there will be a lot of Tory MPs who privately feel the same way. He denied that he is now the "rebel leader" but it would appear that is the title he is now destined for.
- No backing down over 45p tax cut: Jake Berry insisted that getting rid of the 45p additional rate is the "right thing to do" and the Tories should be "going out there making the argument for a low tax, high growth economy". The Government clearly has no plans to change course on that particular issue.
- No free vote: Confirmation from Jake Berry that Tory MPs will not be offered a free vote on the mini-Budget. That means that if they vote against it they will almost certainly lose the Tory whip. High stakes.
'Where we are now cannot continue'
Jake Berry said that for the Tories to win the next general election the Conservative Party must have a "reputation for being competent".
Asked what the Government will do to better address the migrant Channel crossings crisis, Mr Berry suggested that Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, will have an announcement later this week on the matter.
He said that tackling the small boats crossings issue "is going to be key to demonstrating competence".
"Where we are now cannot continue," he added.
Jacob Rees-Mogg booed by protesters
Jacob Rees-Mogg was booed loudly by hundreds of protesters in Birmingham as he arrived at Conservative Party conference.
The Business Secretary was escorted by several police officers as he walked across Victoria Square, where demonstrators had gathered to vent their anger at the Government.
The crowd pursued him, jeering and booing, with some shouting “Tory scum”.
Demonstrators furious at Liz Truss’s economic plan are carrying signs reading “unelected, unaccountable, unhinged” and “wages up, bills down, Tories out”.
Boris Johnson should 'hold his head high'
Boris Johnson should "hold his head high" over his record in No 10, Jake Berry, the chairman of the Conservative Party, has said.
Mr Berry said of Mr Johnson's exit "that is politics, life goes on, we now have an extraordinary new Prime Minister".
Mr Johnson is not expected to attended Tory conference this year but Mr Berry said the former PM could expect a warm welcome if he comes next year.
He said that the Tories would "welcome him back as one of our friends".
Families faced 'winter from hell' before Government support
Jake Berry, the chairman of the Conservative Party, said families would have faced the "winter from hell" if the Government had not brought forward its package of help on energy bills.
Mr Berry said "we have got a tough winter ahead of us" but ministers have now pledged "a lot of help".
Tory chairman rules out free vote on mini-Budget
Up next at the Chopper's Politics event in Birmingham is Jake Berry, the chairman of the Conservative Party.
Mr Berry was asked about the decision to scrap the 45p top rate of income tax.
He argued it is the "right thing to do" and Tories should now be "going out there making the argument for a low tax, high growth economy".
Asked if Tory MPs could be given a free vote on the mini-Budget in the House of Commons, Mr Berry said: "No, absolutely not."
Ex anti-corruption tsar urges more action on financial crime
Tony Diver, The Telegraph's Whitehall correspondent, is currently at a fringe event and has sent across this update:
Britain must become a more “dangerous” place for criminals to put their money or risk losing its reputation as a leader in global finance, ministers have been warned.
John Penrose, the Government’s former anti-corruption tsar, said the UK had become a “natural target” for kleptocrats, organised criminals and gangsters because of the London Stock Exchange and the City. MPs have already passed an Economic Crime Act to close regulatory loopholes that allow dirty money to flow into the UK, but more laws are needed, he said at an event at Conservative Party Conference organised by the Bright Blue think tank.
“We are a natural target and we have to keep moving because as sure as eggs are eggs…they are criminal entrepreneurs,” he said. “They think fast, they move fast, and every time we move they try to leapfrog ahead.”
Tories must not 'look backwards' on education
Michael Gove was asked by an audience member why he opposes the opening of new grammar schools.
The former education secretary said that the Conservative Party "should not be looking backwards" on education.
He said the goal must be that "every child has an outstanding education".
Michael Gove grilled on merits of new Royal Yacht
Michael Gove was asked if he is in favour of a new Royal Yacht.
He said: "I am on record... writing during the coalition years... that having a flagship vessel which would be a floating trade platform... would be a good thing."
But he said it is hard to justify spending taxpayers' money on a yacht at a time when there are other big challenges which need to be addressed.
'I am just a backbencher'
Michael Gove said that Liz Truss is a "highly effective, very intelligent, very focused Cabinet minister" and "people shouldn't underestimate Liz".
Mr Gove said that Ms Truss has "formidable skills" but he would like her to "correct course" on a few policies.
Asked if he is now the "rebel leader" of Tory MPs, Mr Gove said: "No, I am just a backbencher."
Asked if he is a "snake", Mr Gove said: "No."
Government 'betting too much on tax cuts'
Asked who he would prefer to be prime minister, Liz Truss or Boris Johnson, Michael Gove said: "Liz won the leadership election, Boris had to resign."
The former Cabinet minister expressed concerns about the PM's decision to borrow money to pay for tax cuts.
Mr Gove said "my concern is the scale of that borrowing".
He suggested the Government is "betting too much on tax cuts when we are borrowing to pay for them" and "that is not Conservative in my view".
Gove dodges question on voting against mini-Budget
Asked if he will vote against the mini-Budget when it comes up in the House of Commons, Michael Gove would not be drawn directly.
He said there will be a "conversation" about the tax changes in the coming weeks. He also pointed out that he has never voted against the Tory whip in his career as an MP.
Asked how he would vote if the vote was tomorrow, Mr Gove dodged the question and said: "It is not tomorrow so there is plenty of time for that conversation to take place."
Gove 'wary' of Truss tax changes
Michael Gove was asked if he was worried about the prospect of benefits not rising in line with inflation next year.
He said: "It is going to be very difficult to argue it is right to reduce welfare while we are also reducing taxes for the wealthiest."
Mr Gove said that the new Government's values must be "in tune" with those set out in the 2019 Tory general election manifesto.
The former Cabinet minister said he is "wary" of the tax changes being made by Liz Truss.
Michael Gove rejects idea Tories have 'lurched' to the Right
Michael Gove rejected the idea that the Conservative Party has "lurched" to the Right.
The former Cabinet minister said that "words like lurch and badges like right wing are used to cover changes that are at once more complex and subtle than that".
He said there is a "debate" about what the Government's "priorities" should be.
'Thing can change with dramatic speed'
Michael Gove said he is looking forward to a "quiet life" now that he is outside of the government and he is looking forward to contributing as a backbench Tory MP.
Asked what he has learned in the past year, Mr Gove said his lesson is that "things can change with dramatic speed".
'What happened to no headlines?'
Michael Gove has now arrived at the PLMR Business Hub at Conservative Party conference in Birmingham ahead of the start of the Chopper's Politics event at 1pm.
A Tory activist asked the former Cabinet minister "what happened to no headlines" - a reference to Mr Gove's intervention this morning in which he criticised Liz Truss's mini-Budget.
Mr Gove replied: "Are there any?"
The plan for Chopper's Politics podcast
The Chopper's Politics podcast event at Conservative Party conference will get underway at 1pm.
It will start with a half an hour session with Michael Gove and Jake Berry, the chairman of the Conservative Party will then be up for the second half an hour from 1.30pm.
PM pledges to cut small business red tape
Liz Truss has pledged to cut the amount of red tape that applies to small businesses by raising the threshold at which certain rules apply.
The move by the Prime Minister will see potentially tens of thousands of firms made exempt from some regulations in a bid to save them thousands of pounds.
Ms Truss said in a statement: "By raising the definition of a small business, in terms of regulation, from 250 to 500 employees, we will be releasing 40,000 more businesses from red tape.
“That will make it easier for them to get on with their business, in turn boosting our economy and creating more jobs to help get Britain moving. Higher economic growth means higher wages, better jobs, and more funding for our public services and NHS".
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